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đ§ Day 2 at Shoptalk: All About the Measurement Mindset
Why measurement matters now more than everâplus a look at tomorrowâs top sessions.
Hi there,
Day 2 brought a pivotal shift in energy â one that Fosphaâs been championing for a while now: measurement isnât just part of the mix â itâs the main event.
In back-to-back sessions featuring marketing leaders from Meta, Sephora, and Toys R Us, it became clear that brands are tired of guesswork. From âconstellations of measurement sourcesâ to the launch of Metaâs new omni-channel ad product, the thread running through every conversation was clear: prove it or lose it.
đ Deep Dive: The Leading Edge of Storytelling with Kim Miller (WHP Global), Celessa Baker (Sephora), Karin Tracy (Meta), and Donna Sharp (MediaLink)
In one of the most high-impact panels of the day, senior leaders from the likes of Meta and Sephora peeled back the curtain on how theyâre rethinking creativity, measurement, and cultural relevance.
Top Takeaways:
![]() | Creative is the New Targeting: Metaâs Karin Tracy revealed that their new AI model Andromeda increased ad quality by 8% â a nod to performance gains through better creative, not better segmentation. |
![]() | Sephoraâs Cultural Playbook: From a docuseries with Hulu to a glam-room partnership with a WNBA-founded basketball league, Sephora is leaning into unexpected storytelling that feels earned. |
![]() | Toys R Us Goes Full Creator-Mode: With TikTok-famous mascot Geoffrey and a new content studio, the toy brand is owning nostalgia while driving measurable lift â including a viral branded Sora AI video. |
đĄ The connective thread? A firm belief that measurement must match the moment â with KPIs aligned to business outcomes, speed, and decision-making.
âItâs not one metric â itâs a constellation of sources. You need the confidence to act.â
đ The Measurement Pivot We Need
If there was one theme threading through every Shoptalk 2025 keynote, panel, and hallway conversation, it was this: measurement is no longer a back-office functionâitâs a frontline strategy.
![]() | Whether it was Metaâs Karen leading the charge on incrementality, or Samâs Club admitting to ongoing attribution struggles, the message was clear: marketing needs measurement that works now, not in post-mortem. Fosphaâs COO Hailey Cross put it succinctly in our exclusive ClickZ interview on Day 2: |
âOne of my highlights has been how relevant measurement isâacross platforms, agencies, and brands. When marketing gets more complex, measurement becomes the anchor. Itâs why weâve had so many great conversations this year.â
As more brands diversify spendâacross TikTok, Meta, retail media networks, and beyondâthe need for clear, fast, and actionable insight has never been greater.
âThe biggest challenge we hear? That marketing measurement feels complex. But thatâs exactly the opportunity for us at Fospha. Weâre quick to implementâand we can get brands live within seven days,â Hailey added.
That blend of immediacy and clarity is what makes the current shift so significant:
â Diversified media mix means more signalsâbut also more noise
â Board-level accountability demands visibility on whatâs working (and whatâs not)
â Speed-to-insight is no longer optionalâitâs a competitive edge
Fosphaâs bet? Brands that embrace full-funnel measurement, that tie platform activity to outcomes, and that act on data in real-timeânot months laterâwill outpace the competition. Itâs measurement not just as reporting, but as a growth driver.
⨠Keynote Spotlight: Pandoraâs Reinvention Story

Keynote: Crafting Relevant, Modern Brand Stories Through Creativity, Heritage, and Sustainability
Pandoraâs transformation isnât just about product â itâs about positioning. As the brand brings in high-touch collabs (Disney, Murano artisans, Pamela Anderson), itâs also staying accessible.
What stood out:
Theyâve leaned into store-first storytelling while keeping digital a key discovery driver.
Theyâre doubling down on sustainability + personalization with handcrafted, renewable-sourced jewelry.
And most interestingly â theyâve embraced AI for personalization and content production, not as a replacement for creativity, but as a tool to unlock it.
âAI is just a tool. The real magic is in the human touch and the stories we tell.â â Pandora
Creativity at Scale
Pandora's marketing blends brand vision with FMCG rigorâtesting content formats, tracking performance, and layering in AI tools that empower store teams and sharpen creative.
âItâs been fascinating to have a window into the balancing act a brand like Pandora has to play. Ensuring you can continue building on a brand vision while delivering financial results today is no easy feat. Pandoraâs continued growth speaks to their commitment to creating fantastic experiences for future customers through their advertisingâand it very much aligns with Fosphaâs mission to support brands with full-funnel strategies that grow sales.â
Ultimately, Pandora is showing what many brands are just learning: efficiency matters, but creativity is non-negotiable.
đ§ From Possibility to Priority: Sabrina McPherson on Retailâs AI Reset
![]() | At a conference full of shiny AI tools, Publicis Sapientâs Sabrina McPherson brought a rare message: slow down. In an exclusive ClickZ interview, she made the case for discipline over disruption. AI is powerfulâbut only when it solves real problems. |
âTransformation isnât a race to adoptâitâs a discipline in how you decide.â
Where AI Actually Helps
McPherson urged brands to stop chasing trends and start with pain points. From cart abandonment to low conversion, AI should be mapped to measurable use casesânot abstract ambition.
Why Beauty Still Leads
Beauty and fashion are ahead, not just creatively, but operationally. Theyâve mastered personalization, returns, and experience designâsetting the pace for other sectors now playing catch-up.
Data Before Channels
McPherson warned against rushing into TikTok or video commerce without identity resolution. âYou need to know who youâre targetingâbefore you decide where to target them.â
The Real Barrier? Structure
Tech isnât the issueâorg alignment is. When marketing owns the goals but IT owns the tools and budget, innovation stalls. Cross-functional teams and shared KPIs are the unlock.
⥠Inside SHEIN: Real-Time Retail at Global Scale
![]() | At Shoptalk 2025, SHEINâs Peter Pernot-Day didnât talk about disruptionâhe mapped it. The brandâs meteoric rise isnât built on mystery. Itâs built on method. |
âWhen you reduce retail to its core principle, itâs about giving customers what they like and making them feel good.â
SHEINâs global model orbits four principles:
đ Customer-first
đ Accessibility across body types and regions
đ¸ Affordability in a cost-conscious economy
đą Responsibility through sustainability and safety
These arenât taglinesâthey shape product, platform, and tech investment alike.
From Mass Production to Micro-Bets
SHEINâs most radical move? On-demand production. Small batches (100â200 units) go live. Performance decides whether they scale. No signal = no restock. This agility eliminates overstock, cuts waste, and closes the loop between design and data. Itâs not just AI-drivenâitâs designer-augmented. Real-time insights meet real human judgment.
Designers as Strategic Operators
Designers at SHEIN donât guess trendsâthey respond to live signals. Pernot-Day described them as âcritical nodesâ in the org: equal parts creator, analyst, and strategist.
âItâs augmented designânot AI vs. creativity, but tech enhancing the designerâs intuition.â
The Curated Marketplace Model
SHEIN is expanding beyond its own labels via a data-backed marketplace, bringing in lifestyle sellers while maintaining tight curation. Itâs not Amazonâitâs additive. With lower commissions and built-in analytics, sellers gain access to SHEINâs hyper-engaged, Gen Z-dominant audience. Discovery is the product.
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đŻ What to Attend on Day 3 â Thursday, March 27
Keynote: From Discovery to Decisions: Adapting to Shifting Consumer Behavior
Time: 9:50am â 10:10am PT
Googleâs Sean Scott joins January Digital's Sarah Engel to discuss how real-time insights are reshaping discovery, decision-making, and consumer journeys. If your team is navigating evolving shopper behaviors, this one is unmissable.
Keynote: From Insight to Action â How BĂIS Transforms Consumer Understanding into Innovation and Growth
Time: 10:30am â 10:50am PT
BĂIS CEO Adeela Hussain Johnson breaks down how customer data powers product evolution and storytelling. Moderated by Reutersâ Arianna McLymore, this is a masterclass in data-led growth strategy.
Operationsâ Role in Building and Maintaining Brands
Time: ~1:45pm PT
Featuring Nina Khoury, VP, Strategic Operations at SKIMS, this session explores how ops teams influence brand equityâfrom supply chain to customer experience. A key session for performance marketers looking to align brand ops and outcomes.
Restructuring Digital Teams for a World of Unified Commerce
Time: ~3:00pm PT
With speakers from Hanky Panky, GNC, and Tapestry Inc, this panel dives into how digital and omnichannel teams are reorganizing to meet new consumer expectations. Great for leaders rethinking internal structures for speed and scale.
Measuring Retail Media and Holistic Marketing Effectiveness
Time: ~3:55pm PT
Google, Danone, and Albertsons Media Collective tackle how brands can track performance across retail media and broader digital mix. A canât-miss for brands looking to fine-tune attribution models.
Thanks for reading todayâs issue â weâll be back tomorrow with more fresh insights, key takeaways, and behind-the-scenes moments from the Shoptalk floor.
Best regards,
The Unofficially Shoptalk Team
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