🧠 Day 2 at Shoptalk: All About the Measurement Mindset

Why measurement matters now more than ever—plus a look at tomorrow’s top sessions.

Hi there,

Day 2 brought a pivotal shift in energy — one that Fospha’s been championing for a while now: measurement isn’t just part of the mix — it’s the main event.

In back-to-back sessions featuring marketing leaders from Meta, Sephora, and Toys R Us, it became clear that brands are tired of guesswork. From “constellations of measurement sources” to the launch of Meta’s new omni-channel ad product, the thread running through every conversation was clear: prove it or lose it.

🔎 Deep Dive: The Leading Edge of Storytelling with Kim Miller (WHP Global), Celessa Baker (Sephora), Karin Tracy (Meta), and Donna Sharp (MediaLink)

In one of the most high-impact panels of the day, senior leaders from the likes of Meta and Sephora peeled back the curtain on how they’re rethinking creativity, measurement, and cultural relevance.

Top Takeaways:

Creative is the New Targeting: Meta’s Karin Tracy revealed that their new AI model Andromeda increased ad quality by 8% — a nod to performance gains through better creative, not better segmentation.

Sephora’s Cultural Playbook: From a docuseries with Hulu to a glam-room partnership with a WNBA-founded basketball league, Sephora is leaning into unexpected storytelling that feels earned.

Toys R Us Goes Full Creator-Mode: With TikTok-famous mascot Geoffrey and a new content studio, the toy brand is owning nostalgia while driving measurable lift — including a viral branded Sora AI video.

💡 The connective thread? A firm belief that measurement must match the moment — with KPIs aligned to business outcomes, speed, and decision-making.

“It’s not one metric — it’s a constellation of sources. You need the confidence to act.”

Meta

📐 The Measurement Pivot We Need

If there was one theme threading through every Shoptalk 2025 keynote, panel, and hallway conversation, it was this: measurement is no longer a back-office function—it’s a frontline strategy.

Whether it was Meta’s Karen leading the charge on incrementality, or Sam’s Club admitting to ongoing attribution struggles, the message was clear: marketing needs measurement that works now, not in post-mortem. Fospha’s COO Hailey Cross put it succinctly in our exclusive ClickZ interview on Day 2:

“One of my highlights has been how relevant measurement is—across platforms, agencies, and brands. When marketing gets more complex, measurement becomes the anchor. It’s why we’ve had so many great conversations this year.”

As more brands diversify spend—across TikTok, Meta, retail media networks, and beyond—the need for clear, fast, and actionable insight has never been greater.

“The biggest challenge we hear? That marketing measurement feels complex. But that’s exactly the opportunity for us at Fospha. We’re quick to implement—and we can get brands live within seven days,” Hailey added.

That blend of immediacy and clarity is what makes the current shift so significant:

  • ✅ Diversified media mix means more signals—but also more noise

  • ✅ Board-level accountability demands visibility on what’s working (and what’s not)

  • ✅ Speed-to-insight is no longer optional—it’s a competitive edge

Fospha’s bet? Brands that embrace full-funnel measurement, that tie platform activity to outcomes, and that act on data in real-time—not months later—will outpace the competition. It’s measurement not just as reporting, but as a growth driver.

✨ Keynote Spotlight: Pandora’s Reinvention Story

Keynote: Crafting Relevant, Modern Brand Stories Through Creativity, Heritage, and Sustainability

Pandora’s transformation isn’t just about product — it’s about positioning. As the brand brings in high-touch collabs (Disney, Murano artisans, Pamela Anderson), it’s also staying accessible.

What stood out:

  • They’ve leaned into store-first storytelling while keeping digital a key discovery driver.

  • They’re doubling down on sustainability + personalization with handcrafted, renewable-sourced jewelry.

  • And most interestingly — they’ve embraced AI for personalization and content production, not as a replacement for creativity, but as a tool to unlock it.

“AI is just a tool. The real magic is in the human touch and the stories we tell.” — Pandora

Creativity at Scale

Pandora's marketing blends brand vision with FMCG rigor—testing content formats, tracking performance, and layering in AI tools that empower store teams and sharpen creative.

“It’s been fascinating to have a window into the balancing act a brand like Pandora has to play. Ensuring you can continue building on a brand vision while delivering financial results today is no easy feat. Pandora’s continued growth speaks to their commitment to creating fantastic experiences for future customers through their advertising—and it very much aligns with Fospha’s mission to support brands with full-funnel strategies that grow sales.”

Ultimately, Pandora is showing what many brands are just learning: efficiency matters, but creativity is non-negotiable.

🧠 From Possibility to Priority: Sabrina McPherson on Retail’s AI Reset

At a conference full of shiny AI tools, Publicis Sapient’s Sabrina McPherson brought a rare message: slow down. In an exclusive ClickZ interview, she made the case for discipline over disruption. AI is powerful—but only when it solves real problems.

“Transformation isn’t a race to adopt—it’s a discipline in how you decide.”

Where AI Actually Helps
McPherson urged brands to stop chasing trends and start with pain points. From cart abandonment to low conversion, AI should be mapped to measurable use cases—not abstract ambition.

Why Beauty Still Leads
Beauty and fashion are ahead, not just creatively, but operationally. They’ve mastered personalization, returns, and experience design—setting the pace for other sectors now playing catch-up.

Data Before Channels
McPherson warned against rushing into TikTok or video commerce without identity resolution. “You need to know who you’re targeting—before you decide where to target them.”

The Real Barrier? Structure
Tech isn’t the issue—org alignment is. When marketing owns the goals but IT owns the tools and budget, innovation stalls. Cross-functional teams and shared KPIs are the unlock.

⚡ Inside SHEIN: Real-Time Retail at Global Scale

At Shoptalk 2025, SHEIN’s Peter Pernot-Day didn’t talk about disruption—he mapped it. The brand’s meteoric rise isn’t built on mystery. It’s built on method.

“When you reduce retail to its core principle, it’s about giving customers what they like and making them feel good.”

SHEIN’s global model orbits four principles:

  1. 👗 Customer-first

  2. 🌍 Accessibility across body types and regions

  3. 💸 Affordability in a cost-conscious economy

  4. 🌱 Responsibility through sustainability and safety

These aren’t taglines—they shape product, platform, and tech investment alike.

From Mass Production to Micro-Bets
SHEIN’s most radical move? On-demand production. Small batches (100–200 units) go live. Performance decides whether they scale. No signal = no restock. This agility eliminates overstock, cuts waste, and closes the loop between design and data. It’s not just AI-driven—it’s designer-augmented. Real-time insights meet real human judgment.

Designers as Strategic Operators
Designers at SHEIN don’t guess trends—they respond to live signals. Pernot-Day described them as “critical nodes” in the org: equal parts creator, analyst, and strategist.

“It’s augmented design—not AI vs. creativity, but tech enhancing the designer’s intuition.”

The Curated Marketplace Model
SHEIN is expanding beyond its own labels via a data-backed marketplace, bringing in lifestyle sellers while maintaining tight curation. It’s not Amazon—it’s additive. With lower commissions and built-in analytics, sellers gain access to SHEIN’s hyper-engaged, Gen Z-dominant audience. Discovery is the product.

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🎯 What to Attend on Day 3 — Thursday, March 27

  1. Keynote: From Discovery to Decisions: Adapting to Shifting Consumer Behavior

    Time: 9:50am – 10:10am PT

    Google’s Sean Scott joins January Digital's Sarah Engel to discuss how real-time insights are reshaping discovery, decision-making, and consumer journeys. If your team is navigating evolving shopper behaviors, this one is unmissable.

  2. Keynote: From Insight to Action – How BÉIS Transforms Consumer Understanding into Innovation and Growth

    Time: 10:30am – 10:50am PT

    BÉIS CEO Adeela Hussain Johnson breaks down how customer data powers product evolution and storytelling. Moderated by Reuters’ Arianna McLymore, this is a masterclass in data-led growth strategy.

  3. Operations’ Role in Building and Maintaining Brands

    Time: ~1:45pm PT

    Featuring Nina Khoury, VP, Strategic Operations at SKIMS, this session explores how ops teams influence brand equity—from supply chain to customer experience. A key session for performance marketers looking to align brand ops and outcomes.

  4. Restructuring Digital Teams for a World of Unified Commerce

    Time: ~3:00pm PT

    With speakers from Hanky Panky, GNC, and Tapestry Inc, this panel dives into how digital and omnichannel teams are reorganizing to meet new consumer expectations. Great for leaders rethinking internal structures for speed and scale.

  5. Measuring Retail Media and Holistic Marketing Effectiveness

    Time: ~3:55pm PT

    Google, Danone, and Albertsons Media Collective tackle how brands can track performance across retail media and broader digital mix. A can’t-miss for brands looking to fine-tune attribution models.

Thanks for reading today’s issue — we’ll be back tomorrow with more fresh insights, key takeaways, and behind-the-scenes moments from the Shoptalk floor.

Best regards,
The Unofficially Shoptalk Team

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